Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Sickened By Health Care Reform

Wake up, folks. Health care reform is about ideology. Even Ted Kennedy admits that the Democratic Party has been trying to push through this type of legislation for 60 years which is strange since we haven't had a "health care crisis" during most of that time.

It's about big government controlling you life. It's about-- uh oh, here comes the "S" word-- socialism.

David Kahane writes for the National Review Online:
We understand that if government can control each aspect of the human life cycle, from insemination to gestation to a woman’s right to choose to final destination (whichever comes first), it’s game, set, and match for the antiquated notions of “individual liberties.” Once His Serene Highness, the Emperor Barack Hussein Obama II, Protector of the Holy Cities of Honolulu and Chicago, and Czar of all the Fussers, gets his camel’s nose under your hospital gown, then nothing you ever do in your life will go unregulated.
And then there's this from the Heritage Foundation:
During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” President Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.” (quote begins at 17:10)

This is a truly disturbing admission by the President, especially considering that later in the call, Obama promises yet again: “If you have health insurance, and you like it, and you have a doctor that you like, then you can keep it. Period.” How can Obama keep making this promise if he is not familiar with the health legislation that is being written in Congress? Details matter.
Obama's approval numbers continue to fall even as he insists Americans want this kind of reform.

Forgive me for sounding like a right-wing nut job, but if I wanted to live in Canada, I would have loaded up my station wagon and headed north long ago.


DamnCat said...

Obama doesn't care if people want this reform. He doesn't care if it will improve people's lives or save them money. It isn't about any of that. How can it be when, by his own admission, he doesn't even know what is in the bill.

It is all about Obama being a big man. He is intent on creating a dependency and patronage system that democrats have dreamed for years but have never been able to achieve. Obama is hell bent on doing it because he believes he can and because he believes it will make him the all-time top-dog liberal politician. In your face Bill & Hillary.

Traci Skene said...

I suppose that's why he felt the need to say, "It's not about me."

He's losing Independents. He's slipping in the polls. He may "lose" and pull the Democratic Party down with him.

Steve said...

Medicare will run out of money in 2018 -- two years sooner than predicted a year ago. That's 12 years sooner than had been anticipated when Bush first took office.

Why don't we at least try to fix the health care system?

Seems like a better idea than a 4 trillion dollar war in Iraq (hey, we could have used some of that money for health care reform).

Traci Skene said...

The estimated cost of both wars is only now approaching $1 trillion. (The $4 trillion figure probably comes from a book, "Three Trillion Dollar War," by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, but few people believe that estimate. But figures like that one are irresistible and take on a life of their own.)

The cost of the war in Iraq will, obviously plummet, now that we've pulled out.

The cost of waging war in Afghanistan will be nowhere near that of Iraq. (See above.)

But no mention of the cost of waging a war belongs in a discussion of health care and/or health insurance.

And it makes no sense that anyone would mention Medicaid when trying to convince others that it's a good idea to allow the federal government to take over the entire industry. By your own admission, Medicare will "run out of money" in less than a decade.

The CBO estimates that the president's estimates of the bill's total costs are low. What makes you think that we won't be saying that ObamaCare will "run out of money" by 2020? or 2025? or 2030?

The failure of Medicare might indicate that we should move away from that model, not have more of it.

Should there be reform? Certainly. But not by allowing the government to take it over. There are a number of ways that the situation can be fixed-- regulation of insurance, re-introduction of competition, HSA's, bringing market forces to bear on transactions involving procedures, surgeries, pharmaceuticals, taxing employee health insurance benefits.

As I've stated before, I firmly believe this is all about ideology... a desire for bigger government and more control of people's lives. The fact that you dragged the Iraq war into the health care debate only further proves my point.

Steve said...

I brought up Iraq war spending in response to your post (yes, you do "sound like a right-wing nut job").

I mentioned Medicare because it's a good example of health care costs out of control.

Also, I never mentioned Medicaid. Medicaid is what most comics end up using after a serious injury or illness. It’s not an efficient way to treat people without insurance. It's part of the problem.

Sorry I wasn’t clearer -- have a great weekend.

Traci Skene said...

"Right wing nut job" was meant to be sarcastic. It seems that anybody who is opposing this plan is engaging in fear mongering.

The 50 million uninsured number is bogus. Up to 14 million of those people are already eligible for existing government programs and nine million make more than $75,000. Ten million are illegal immigrants. The rest are chronically uninsured.

I am one of the chronically uninsured. Years ago, New Jersey changed the laws to limit the health care plans I can choose. Consequently, I cannot afford coverage. Prior to their meddling, I was happily insured with an out-of-state provider.

All I ask is that you fix these laws first before radically changing this country. How does that make me a right wing nut?

Steve said...

Well, you did sound like a "right-wing nut job" when you quoted National Review, the Heritage Foundation, IBD, etc.

However, I would not have used those words. I only used that phrase because you used it in your post.

I do think your talking points sound familiar in a conservative sort of way.

Traci Skene said...

If you maintain that these points are illegitimate merely because they come from a place that is right of center than we are all in deep trouble.

What ever happened to seeing both sides? What ever happened to debate? Yes, I've seen your side but I disagree with your arguments. I give my opinion and I'm a crazy conservative. That's just the way it is but it shouldn't be that way.

Earlier today, a friend of mine posted on Facebook that "conservatives don't want to help poor people." He said it matter of factly and folks agreed. That is utterly and painfully ridiculous.

"Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." I believe in teaching people to fish. If that makes me evil, so be it.